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duishay

Posted 8/19/2007 17:58 (#189756 - in reply to #189753)
Subject: RE: Rent vs own

SE Nebraska

wheat farmer - 8/19/2007 16:28

" Maybe the younger farmers will just need to sit and wait.

Yeah but how long. I started 7 yrs ago and all land has done is gone up up up. If i wait too long I'll no longer be the next generation. I graduated high school in a class of 22. Then on to college. Of my HS class I am the only one that is currently farming. I can also think of only 2 people in the 3 classes below me that are trying to make a go of it.

I pulled this off of the Economic research service web site. http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/FarmStructure/Questions/aging.htm

Q. How does the age of farmers differ from that of other members of the labor force?
A. The average age of farmers in 1997 was 54.3 years. The proportion of farmers age 55 and over rose from 37 percent in 1954 to 61 percent in 1997.

While U.S. agriculture has long been characterized by a larger share of older operators, the future of farming in America depends on continued entry by new farm operators. However, the share of farmers younger than 35 declined from 15 percent in 1954 to 8 percent in 1997.

I believe that government subsidies hurt new farmers rather than help them. I know of several large farmers around me that buy a farm every year basically by using their subsidy payments for the large portion of the cost. With the price of land today I can not sharpen my pencil enough to make a land purchase work.

While I agree with wheat farmer that younger farmers need to "sit and wait." I often wonder if there will be enough "young farmers" left to take on the acres that will come from retirement of the generations before us.

JMO

rent, economies of size, and government payments - tkastens : 8/18/2007 01:11
- RE: rent, economies of size, and government payments - coup : 8/18/2007 08:07
- Economics of size. - Hay Wilson in TX : 8/18/2007 08:39
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - tkastens : 8/18/2007 09:08
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Hay Wilson in TX : 8/18/2007 11:15
- RE: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pat H : 8/18/2007 08:57
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - tkastens : 8/18/2007 09:22
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 09:50
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - wheat farmer : 8/18/2007 11:23
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 15:12
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - plowboy : 8/19/2007 00:25
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - wheat farmer : 8/19/2007 16:54
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - tkastens : 8/18/2007 16:02
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 20:48
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - peanut farmer : 8/18/2007 22:03
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - plowboy : 8/19/2007 00:30
        
        amen, plowboy! nt - cotman : 8/19/2007 00:38
      - Steve, - eddiedry : 8/18/2007 16:13
        
        eddydry - John Burns : 8/18/2007 18:41
        AMEN!!!! - RAB : 8/18/2007 22:42
        land laying out?? - dvswia : 8/19/2007 08:22
        "bto sharks" - plowboy : 8/20/2007 20:38
        
        Bingo and the prize goes to plowboy... - usafarmer : 8/21/2007 07:16
      - That sir, is about the most powerful post I ever read on NAT - Ed Winkle : 8/29/2007 12:59
- Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/18/2007 09:57
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - dixonman : 8/18/2007 12:28
    - investments - John Burns : 8/18/2007 18:56
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/18/2007 22:49
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - plowboy : 8/19/2007 00:37
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 01:51
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - plowboy : 8/19/2007 02:03
        
        Re:definitions of ego - Greg Stremel : 8/19/2007 15:07
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 16:20
        Re:definitions of ego - wheat farmer : 8/19/2007 16:59
    - PE of farming - John Burns : 8/18/2007 19:01
      - RE: PE of farming - dixonman : 8/18/2007 21:29
        
        RE: Late 80's - coup : 8/18/2007 21:48
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/18/2007 22:52
      - RE: PE of farming - tkastens : 8/18/2007 23:17
        
        RE: PE of farming - dixonman : 8/19/2007 08:42
        
        RE: PE of farming - plowboy : 8/19/2007 22:41
- RE: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Cliff SEIA : 8/18/2007 12:55
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 15:17
- Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 15:20
- Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - paul the original : 8/18/2007 16:02
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - bob freeze : 8/18/2007 17:51
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - paul the original : 8/18/2007 18:33
    - Why bigger? - John Burns : 8/18/2007 19:16
      - RE: Why bigger? - Ontrack : 8/18/2007 19:54
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - west illini : 8/18/2007 19:59
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 21:01
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - west illini : 8/18/2007 21:24
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 21:35
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - west illini : 8/18/2007 22:34
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - coup : 8/18/2007 21:37
      - RE: Why bigger? - plowboy : 8/19/2007 00:43
        
        More like 3 - John Burns : 8/22/2007 08:05
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/19/2007 09:57
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/19/2007 10:00
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 20:54
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/18/2007 22:55
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - dixonman : 8/19/2007 08:55
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 11:16
        
        Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - dixonman : 8/19/2007 12:53
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - plowboy : 8/19/2007 00:49
      - Re: and still others say.... - CRJ : 8/19/2007 07:58
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/18/2007 18:31
- How dare you tell the king he is naked..... - John Burns : 8/18/2007 18:12
- Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/18/2007 21:05
- Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/19/2007 09:45
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Jon S : 8/19/2007 09:59
- RE: Sorry Terry I meant you not Ted, don't know where I got Ted - Steve in SD : 8/19/2007 10:06
  - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - tkastens : 8/20/2007 08:18
    - Re: Thank you administrators - plowboy : 8/28/2007 21:46
      - Ditto,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, - eddiedry : 8/28/2007 22:07
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - wheat farmer : 8/28/2007 22:24
    - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Steve in SD : 8/30/2007 19:11
- Rent vs own - Les NCKS : 8/19/2007 10:10
  - RE: Rent vs own - wheat farmer : 8/19/2007 17:28
    - RE: Rent vs own - duishay : 8/19/2007 17:58
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 19:35
      - RE: Rent vs own - plowboy : 8/19/2007 22:51
        
        RE: Rent vs own - wheat farmer : 8/20/2007 11:55
    - Two points................... - eddiedry : 8/19/2007 18:32
      - RE: Two points................... - rice-and-hogs : 8/19/2007 18:45
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 19:55
    - RE: Rent vs own - coup : 8/19/2007 21:07
      - Re: rent, economies of size, and government payments - Pofarmer : 8/19/2007 22:13
        
        Re: Today's Land Buyer - coup : 8/19/2007 22:50
        
        Re: Today's Land Buyer - dixonman : 8/20/2007 20:16

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