Cowboycorn,

 What do you use to kill them off?  Roundup, dicamba, 2,4-D?  Don't really want to use gramoxone.  How long you got to wait after spraying?

BTW, is there a notable difference in forage yield between the red rippers and other varieties?  I have only been able to get Victor seed. I wish i was your neighbor, I'd pay you good to fill up my wagon every fall.

Eddie