Chilliwack, British Columbia | I think that Select has a decent one, he is red, but not enough milk for what I am looking for. Otherwise, I agree. There will be more coming down the pipeline though, looking forward to using them.
As to the original question, having the copper ring is the way to go. We now use a butane torch type dehorner, and it takes about 10sec if done right. I also recommend local anesthetic. My brother got us started doing that a number of years ago, we mix a sedative with an anesthetic, the calves are much easier to dehorn properly, and can't hurt to make them feel better afterwards.
Glenn
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