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paul the original
Posted 5/18/2023 14:04 (#10234017 - in reply to #10233711)
Subject: RE: But the sun don't shine at night . . .


southern MN
It is an expensive time to be alive.

The sun still doesn’t shine at night.

Batteries store electricity we need to be mindful of the losses and inefficiencies and extra costs of converting electricity to storage, holding it, and converting to back to use.

Those being proactive on most any topic tend to assume 100% efficiencies of their unproven equipment. We already hear recharging a car is almost free and has zero pollution ever..... does any thinking person actually believe that?

A combination of wind, solar, nuke, hydro, coal, and gas generation of our electric needs is a pretty good setup. Limiting ourselves to far less options greatly increases the risk of a disaster being felt much more widely and longer and more difficult to recover from. The reality is the solar and wind is the least proven most expensive and most in elastic source of electric power. It can be a nice supplement, but certainly foolish to think it will provide electricity on demand as the main or only supply to a nation in our lifetimes.

In the same way, eliminating gasoline, diesel, natural gas, and propane as sources of heat, power, and energy for the masses I’d dangerous. Short sighted. Limiting.

When the power goes out we can use a generator. Or heat with a natural gas stove. Or a wood stove. And otherwise shift our energy source from the one that failed to one that is still available.

Time and again in a blizzard or flood or tornado or hurricane we make do by having overlapping, redundant power options to keep us alive and functioning.

This idiotic drive to only offer an electric cord as the only possible option to get energy. And then only allowing solar panels or windmills to source that power.....

That is so unbelievably short sighted and destructive to a society.

Words can’t describe how in humane that is!

And here we are, head first diving down the rabbit hole.

I can’t comprehend how poor our educational system is that people think this is a bright future?

Concentrating all our power into one source, one type, administer by the govt mandates, so there are no other options.

What could possibly go wrong?


Just the social implications of only allowing one power source, thereby concentrating all the power of control into one body supplying energy to the masses. We have no options, the only infrastructure now is this power cord from us....... terrible.



Back in the 70s energy crisis I cut out articles from magazines and papers, read the home power and Mother Earth news magazines, how to restore old electric windmill plants from the 30s... because alternative energy sources are a -good- thing.

Doesn’t anyone understand this is the opposite of that, this is the ‘you must comply’ utopian total control of the masses here is some power whenever we can get any to you and you will like it because we tell you to deal? Because now this is the only choice you have we eliminated all other infrastructure. You have no choice or option left we have total control.

What a disaster.

Paul
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