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HuskerJ
Posted 1/24/2023 20:38 (#10058038 - in reply to #10056834)
Subject: RE: Mass shootings



East of Broken Bow
hlstark - 1/24/2023 10:53

At least 70 people have been killed and 167 wounded in mass shootings so far in 2023,

What should be done? The cursory saying of “thoughts and prayers” doesn’t seem to be working.

Should we mandate that everyone carry a gun? Problem with that is accidental gun discharges amount to 535 deaths last year, imagine how many would die if everyone is packing.

Tougher penalties don’t help since the shooters most of the tome want to die while shooting.

Should we follow the lead of other advanced countries whose gun laws led to decrease in mass shootings? Or are we as Americans too independent and too gun loving to even think of changes?

Or should we just go on life and just accept gun violence and follow up with each shooting with thoughts and prayers?



The vast, vast, vast majority of 'mass shootings' are drug/gang/crime related, like 88%, according to stats
Gun murder and suicide rates are lower now than in the 1970s. (didn't see stats on accidental shootings).

(note I am actually posting a link and a quote from the link instead of just saying something that I think I know).

https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/gun-facts-and-fiction/mas...

Mass killings are very rare, accounting for only 0.2 percent of homicides every year and approximately 1 percent of homicide victims.
Only 12 percent of mass killings are mass public shootings. Most mass killings are “familicides” (murders of family members or intimate partners) and felony-related killings (robberies or gang-related “turf battles”).
Per the Pew Research Center, gun murder and suicide rates in the U.S. are both lower today than in the 1970s. There were 4.6 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2017, far below the 6.2 recorded in 1976. And the rate of gun suicides – 6.9 per 100,000 people in 2017 – remains below the 7.7 per 100,000 measured in 1977.



--from the same link, over 85% of mass shootings have occurred in gun free zones--

Using the GunFacts.info MPS Database, which contains the 71 MPS (using the FBI definition) documented in the U.S. between 1988 and August 4, 2019, more than 85 percent of MPS have been perpetrated in gun-free zones. (Although the data set goes back to 1982, detailed information began to be documented in 1988.) These gun-free zones include 17 workplaces, 12 schools, five churches and three shopping malls.

As reported by GunFacts.info, in addition to gun-free zones, some MPS with the highest fatalities have another common factor. Defined by GunFacts.info, they occurred in “cattle pen” scenarios:
Many people in a “crowded” area (required); and
Limited exits or exit capacity; and/or
Few or no places to take cover.

--another stat listed is how the USA is NOT the 'mass shooting' capital of the world, same link. --

Although you may see sensational headlines to the contrary, when compared with other developed countries and accounting for population differences through the 47 years from 1966 to 2012, the U.S. makes up less than 1.43 percent of the mass public shooters population. It also accounts for 2.11 percent of attackers’ murders and 2.88 percent of the attacks. All these are much less than the U.S.’s 4.6 percent share of the world population. Attacks are not only less frequent in America than in other countries, they are also much less deadly on average. The 437-page data set and detailed list of countries can be found on the CPRC website.
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