think thats like cheap-fast-quality..?? 

I've got a older pair of Pak boots. They are warm and waterproof but not light. I've had them 10+ years never failed me yet. Just don't get in any foot races with a polar bear....

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Footwear/Mens-Footwear/Mens-Casual-Shoes/Mens-Pac-Boots%7C/pc/104797980/c/104747580/sc/104824080/i/103959180/Sorel174-Caribou8482-Pac-Boots/722166.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2F_%2FN-1102516

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