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Posted 2/28/2025 23:20 (#11127044 - in reply to #11125934)
Subject: RE: The carnivore diet


Townsend, Montana
littlejohn - 2/28/2025 08:26

In the short term Carnivore and Keto may make you feel better. One hypothesis is that they are elimination diets and you are probably allergic to some carbs. If you would slowly add carbs back one at a time, you could determine which you can or cannot eat. The proponents for low carb diets focus on the short term benefits and ignore long term detriments such as you are heading for heart attack or stroke later in life because high fat and high salt consumption will lead to atherosclerosis. In this video Kelly talks about her friend Cindy who did just that. Cindy likely was on her way to hardening of the arteries anyway due to earlier diet choices (as all of us are) and accelerated the process when she switched to keto and then carnivore. Dr. Ovadia may be a good surgeon but a poor diagnostician.



Problem with your hypothesis is that I started on the opposite end and wound up at solid keto/borderline carnivore. I went from what would be considered a "very healthy" diet according to the food pyramid to a strict elimination diet (nothing but beef, salt, and water). I was dealing with asthma and arthritis and the only thing the medical community could do was offer more pills.

I went to the most strict of elimination diets. Within days, my asthma was basically gone. After several weeks, my joint quit hurting.

As you mentioned, I started adding foods back in. Found a couple solid triggers to my asthma. But over the past 3 years I have found something else: I feel the best, work the best, think the best, etc when I eat nothing but beef. Because of going on a strict elimination diet and keeping a dietary journal, I found the "carnivore diet". And I don't like the carnivore diet. I was sick and tired of eating beef after a month on my elimination. 3 years later, I am still tired of beef.

I like pizza. Actually, I LOVE pizza.

Frito Lay corn chips. The things I would do for a corn chip...

Dot's pretzels. Spicy trail mixes. Honey roasted peanuts. Pretty much anything crunchy and salty.

If I eat any of he aforementioned, I don't sleep as well and feel like crap the next day. By the method you provided of going to an elimination diet and then adding carbs back in to determine what you can and can't eat, I can't eat any net carbs. And I pretty much don't. In my opinion it isn't the carb intake as much as the insulin response. When my body is not making any insulin, I feel great. The higher my insulin levels, the worse I feel. My well being seems to be inversely proportional to my insulin level.

As for the atherosclerotic plaques: find me a human atherosclerotic plaque biopsy where the plaque does not contain phytosterols. I can't find any.

Phytosterols are not necessary for us to survive. I would dare say that I have no phytosterols in my body.

If there are no records of atherosclerotic plaques that do not contain photosterols and I do not have any phytosterols in my body, what are the odds of me developing atherosclerotic plaques? Faulty reasoning? Maybe - but I am betting my life on it...

If your doctor refers to "LDL" as "cholesterol", you need a new doctor. LDL is NOT cholesterol...

As always, your mileage may vary
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