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Kooiker
Posted 11/26/2024 07:57 (#10983112 - in reply to #10983004)
Subject: RE: Solar. Carbon credtis, RFS, EV incentives



w1891 - 11/26/2024 06:53 Ethanol isn’t nearly as strong a you think without the mandate. A mandatory 10% blend is a huge deal and automatic market maker. So it is true there are no taxpayers dollars used. Just force buying. Perhaps that’s what the renewable e every industry needs to do. Make a mandated usage law and then they can also say no taxpayers dollars were used.. Ethanol free gas isn’t more expensive because ethanol is cheap. Every gallon you buy of that means someone else has to buy a higher blend because RINS are still a thing and every gallon of finished gasoline has to have to have a RIN attached to it.




There is some truth to what you say, but Ethanol IS CHEAPER than Gasoline.

https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes/RBY00/overview#mce_temp_url#        $2.00 gas


https://www.barchart.com/futures/quotes/ZKY00/overview#mce_temp_url#        $1.56 ethanol



Ethanol is cheap Octane and isn't going away with or without the RFS.     Without the RFS the oil companies might end up owning the ethanol industry but they make way too much money off of it to shut it down.

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In exchange for giving up their subsidies, I'd have no problem giving wind and solar a combined 10% of the electric market (they're basically there already) with the condition that they have to be able to supply that power with 100% reliability 24/7/365.    Meaning they have to supply power 24 hrs/day 7 days/week 52 days/year.

Ethanol can supply usable energy 24/7/365, there's no reason to not expect the same out of wind/solar.

Any minute they can't supply the power, they lose the mandate to sell that power.   It has to be wind and solar produced to qualify for their 10% mandate but they can store it in batteries till it is used.   No govt subsidies for building their batteries.     


Yes I know that will NEVER HAPPEN.    Wind and solar are way too comfortable with the teats they've been sucking on forever and will continue to do so forever.

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