I appreciate your well reasoned reply.

I agree that we need to work together.. and avoid un-neccesary "fear mongering."

My objectives:

1) Stimulus was to help recover... 2 quarters of positive GDP.. mission accomplished.
2) A widely held perception that Washington spending is the problem.. in an effort to create or save a job we lose 2..

http://michellemalkin.com/2009/04/13/spains-green-jobs-boondoggle/

Every “green job” created with government money in Spain over the last eight years came at the cost of 2.2 regular jobs, and only one in 10 of the newly created green jobs became a permanent job, says a new study released this month. The study draws parallels with the green jobs programs of the Obama administration.

at this point "please STOP trying to help FIX the economy..."

3) I agree with the financial regulations.. let's work together on the things that we agree upon.

4) My buddy and many others have taxes to pay.. we can not help rebuild our businesses and generate job growth until we see a more business friendly environment...  (the point of his lecture to me... I had to take your side on that one.. yal but.. yal but.. yal but...)

5) Most economist looking at our President's Budget forecasts especially on the deficits agree that we are fast approaching that level of unsustainable debt...  I could expand on this if you wish...

I support a sustainable economy as much as the next guy but at the end of the day you have to ask yourself.. Sure we could create jobs planting solar panels on the surface of the moon... but a) it won't work.. and b) we can't afford it.. therefore the jobs are NOT sustainable anyway... 

We have to get back to reality.  Please join us...

next topic:  EPA and Indirect Land Use... again Socialism does not work.. how many bandaids are they going to place on their nirvana economic model of a green economy?  At this point it is becoming hard to take ANYTHING THEY SAY SERIOUSLY? 

"So is this before... or after we get the solar panels on the surface of the moon...?????"

And where in this Universe are they headed anyway?????????????

lol... don't get me started..